Thanks but the link just directs you to ""go daddy"" seems fryes site still in development.As to other sites to which I have been directed they either wont send outside USA or quote very high prices.The info I received came from the folks at project Gutenberg the free ebook people-seems this is a special offer only available ""in store"" but thanks anyway

I was watching basketball tonight and my step-son asked me what country the Timber wolves were from. I said Minnesota. He thought that must be a nice country. Going out to buy a map tomorrow.

I think ya all might get a laugh out of this one. Dont be surprised that your Filipina knows nothing about world maps or countries. The area I was living in (Ticao island) in Masbate province, people there had no idea at all where America is. They knew that I had to fly in the sky to get there. So strangly enough, they assumed that America was one of the little lights (stars) that they see at night in the sky!! This is no joke. They were as serious as a heart atttack and I had to bite my lip on more that one occation to keep from laughing.This would have been a funny thing if it was just the children in my barrio. But it encluded the adults and school teachers as well. Sure glad we were home-teaching our children. In a place with no electric power, it always made me wonder what they would think of a microwave oven or even a computer with an internet connection. HA-HA-HA.

I had a girlfriend who watched Fox News with me and had never really watched an American newscast before. After some time of scrutinizing what she was hearing... she asked me why we have so many presidents. I told her, of course, the U.S. only has ONE president. Then she mentioned several presidents and prime ministers from England, Australian, Germany, and various other ""white"" countries that she had digested from the newscasts.... and pointed out that all the ""countries"" in the Philippines only have ONE president which is ""Gloria"". After some discussion... it was clear to me that her conception of the world was quite different from ours. To her... all the white people were ONE country... and names like U.S., Canada, England, were merely the same as ""Luzon"", ""Cebu"" and ""Masbate"" to her. When asked about Japan or China... all I got was a blank stare.

My Filipino relative who have never left the island tell me it is to hot and they can't sleep at night sometimes. Given a choice they would love air con. I have seen after a party about 20 women in the bedroom to sleep with the air-conditioned room.

hi all, my experiences in PI is that you get very used to the weather and temps. Back in the states 8 yrs now, I still need a/c set @ 80 and heater @72-3. About 18 mos will change your preferences I think. When I move back, 6/03 0r 6/04 will not think of a/c. Just not worth the expences. If it gets that hot, then its time to go bar hopping and shoot some pool. Just carry a towel to mop up the sweat if engaged in any physical activies. Yes, including that :

Self moderation is easy if we are disciplined; just don't reply to any posts you consider off-topic, no matter how much they might incense you.I receive email digests so it's not possible to ignore posts from specified individuals since a digest typically contains about 25 posts.

In talking of hot water/cold water,you should remember that water in the tropical lowlands is approximately 78F and not the 50F or so of the temperate Zones.I'm more interested in having enough pressure to get it to the shower head than that it be hot.Especially if the temperature in the bathroom is 90F or so

More than one has mentioned ""getting acclimated"". But I think that's a little like ""faith healing"". A little bit true but mostly hogwash. The simple fact is... if you get ""cool"" by opening all the windows and using ceiling fans... and hardly ever turn the aircon on... that qualifies as ""hogwash"". There's no way letting ANY amount of 95 degree heat come through your house that's going to make it any cooler inside than the 95 degrees it is outside. And aircons remove humidity also. So not using it means the air is 95 and muggy. Now.. can you scientifically refute what I have just said? Perhaps in December, January and February. It only gets close to 90 in those months.

There's an even better furniture store at the SM Mall in Pampanga. I'm sorry... I forgot the name... but ""Home"" is in the name. If you're in the mall you can't miss it if you explore the first floor of the mall... the display will impress you as you're walking by. Good furniture... low prices.

My own opinion matches yours in that out lay would be expensive initially. I think if I have the money when I build it is probably the route I would like to go. However as you point out theory and reality are seldom the same.Many thanks again for your professional advice.

too young for that ""po"" thing...only 28 years old unless you're one of my nieces and nephews :) po and opo makes ywalang anuman! one last thing...don't say ""po"" to me... it's a sign of courtesy to someone older or important person... i'm oung people feel old also... be careful with it but you'll simply be gently reminded like this one... another gesture of courteous language is using the third person form when speaking directly to another person...same in Spanish (of which i don't find in english :) maybe you've also heard pinoys say: excuse me po! thank you po! filipino interspersed with english! quite difficult for first timers but is more widely used in day to day conversation particularly here in Manila sana po'y nakatulong ito (HTH)

i'll be in Lian, Batangas for the weekend...maybe i can ask around. i'll be back on tuesday...beach houses are relatively cheap there you can make phone calls on current prices and ask someone who knew the place...if you're interested, i'll give my report later. hanggang sa muli!

We too have grown tired of the off topic post of a political and nationalistic nature of late and agree with the comments of many in todays and yesterdays post. Self moderation is clearly the first way to end these threads,""if you don't respond the thread will die"". However we do understand that it is sometimes difficult not to respond when one feels personally afronted by some comments. An old English solution to this problem is to adress your diferences in the boxing ring. I would therfore suggest (tounge in check) that the current fued between Americans and Canadians be settled in such a manner. Each select your champion don the gloves. I am sure there is a basketball or cock fighting stadium avalible one night of the week in Cebu where most of you live. Hopfully the champs will knock each other into a draw situation over 15 rounds. You will then shake hands whilst being held up by your seconds and will be long life friends (Just like happens in those old movies) This new found frenship will then result in a peaceful existence and the end of off topic bickering. One spin off, the organisor could sell tickets to the pugalistic battle and proceeds could go to paying for the after match party. Also a vidoe taken of the event, i am sure would sell well amougst all of us non resident members of this list.

the article read that 10% may be sent to Clark this was to assist in screening arrivals from affected countries.

as I am not an American I can't be painted with the liberal/conservative-Democrat/Republican brush. Personally I am an Australian with a sense of fair play and a knowledge of history. My response was not America Bashing, if you read what I wrote it was merely a recounting of historical fact and in response to a thread and a post that was both off topic and highly insulting to most, regardless of nationality or political persuasion. To paraphrase John Paul Jones, I have not yet begun to bash. (Personally I like Americans, I think everyone should have one and the way things are going we probably will; in the front yard wearing combat boots-The Anonymous Bear). But I digress. I happen to have travelled fairly extensively in your country and consider it my number one favourite vacation destination. I find the Amercian people to be warm, kind, fun and generous to a fault. Of course most of my contact has been with serving and ex-military, but with enough civilians to feel it is the rule rather than the exception. As for being a liberal, although I would not class myself in that mould; what is wrong with that? Without liberals there would be no conservatives as without fear there can be no courage. As for war, I have served my country proudly and well yet I abhor war except as a last resort but; ""War is a terrible thing, but not the terriblest of things. The decayed and degraded state of morale and patriotic feeling that believes nothing is worth war is much worse. Pity the man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he values more than his own wretched skin; for he will never be free unless made and kept so by men better than himself"" I try, but not always succeed, to be a better man. Do you? I will write no more on this topic onlist, but feel free to continue offlist at my email address shown. If you do, you will be the first. Perry. PS if anyone can tell me who the quote above is from, you will get a free pat of my snake next LinP meeting.

I am not an American I can't be painted with the liberal/conservative-Democrat/Republican brush. Personally I am an Australian with a sense of fair play and a knowledge of history. My response was not America Bashing, if you read what I wrote it was merely a recounting of historical fact and in response to a thread and a post that was both off topic and highly insulting to most, regardless of nationality or political persuasion. To paraphrase John Paul Jones, I have not yet begun to bash. (Personally I like Americans, I think everyone should have one and the way things are going we probably will; in the front yard wearing combat boots-The Anonymous Bear). But I digress. I happen to have travelled fairly extensively in your country and consider it my number one favourite vacation destination. I find the Amercian people to be warm, kind, fun and generous to a fault. Of course most of my contact has been with serving and ex-military, but with enough civilians to feel it is the rule rather than the exception. As for being a liberal, although I would not class myself in that mould; what is wrong with that? Without liberals there would be no conservatives as without fear there can be no courage. As for war, I have served my country proudly and well yet I abhor war except as a last resort but; ""War is a terrible thing, but not the terriblest of things. The decayed and degraded state of morale and patriotic feeling that believes nothing is worth war is much worse. Pity the man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he values more than his own wretched skin; for he will never be free unless made and kept so by men better than himself"" I try, but not always succeed, to be a better man. Do you? I will write no more on this topic onlist, but feel free to continue offlist at my email address shown. If you do, you will be the first. Perry. PS if anyone can tell me who the quote above is from, you will get a free pat of my snake next LinP meeting.

But there is a linguistic courtesy trait which Tagalog does share with English, although it might not nowadays be recognised as such. . If you want to be very respectful you use the second person plural instead of the second person signular: ""Kumusta kayo"" instead of ""Kumusta ka"". ""How are you?"" in English also uses the second person plural ""you"" which has replaced the orignal ""thou"". This also came about as the result of using ""you"" (plural) to show respect. Similarly, French ""vous"" instead of ""tu"" and German ""Sie"" instead of ""du"" also show respect though these languages haven't lost their ""thou"" equivalents. Other Indo-Eurpean languages, I'm sure, have done the same. You may also have heard that Queen Victoria showed self-respect to herself by referring to herself in the first person plural. ""We are not amused!""

An old English solution to this problem is to adress your diferences in the boxing ring.

I haven't responded to this thread but since you have brought it up again and it is getting my blood pressure up what you have considered to be a solution probable wouldn't be very effective. The reason I say this is because I believe most of those who have been bashing the American's are Canooks not your average Canadian to say the least. They would probable surrender before even entering the ring.

I don't know if this info. will help, but in 1996 my son celebrated his 2nd birthday in Cebu. He became ill and was hospitalized for 10 or 11 days at Cebu Doctor's Hospital. They did not accept our BC/BS card because it was not an international card. However, upon return to the US, I asked BC/ BS about our situation. They told me to submit the paid bill and they would take care of it. I did and they did. Sent me a check for $875.00. I was told that if If I had the need for medical treatment while in the RP to try to pay with a credit card; easier to process.That was in 1996, I am not sure about now

I am 40, and my wife is..........40. Although I have made the joke to trade her in for 2 twenty year olds, I would not. As many have said, age is not important. My wife takes great care of me. That is the Filipino way. We have been married 10 years. We are both bullheaded and a pain in the butt, so we get along great.

I have a friend who married a younger Filipina. Not only is she, but she also looks younger than she really is. When Keith gets rude comments from people about the age difference, he just replies,"" I don't care for wrinkled women "", end of discussion. When I first met my father-in-law, he remarked that it is odd that I married my wife since most Americans marry younger Filipinas, my wife is 4 years and 1 day younger than I am. After considering his comment, I asked him if I could trade Madel for her youngest sister. He never answered and to this day I still wonder if he thought I was serious.

If you're in Pampanga, the town of Betis is the place to buy your furniture. Betis is well-known for their furniture makers and woodcarvers.

Americans, I think everyone should have one and the way things are going we probably will; in the front yard wearing combat boots-The Anonymous Bear). But I digress. I happen to have travelled fairly extensively in your country and consider it my number one favourite vacation destination. I find the Amercian people to be warm, kind, fun and generous to a fault. Of course most of my contact has been with serving and ex-military, but with enough civilians to feel it is the rule rather than the exception. As for being a liberal, although I would not class myself in that mould; what is wrong with that? Without liberals there would be no conservatives as without fear there can be no courage. As for war, I have served my country proudly and well yet I abhor war except as a last resort but; ""War is a terrible thing, but not the terriblest of things. The decayed and degraded state of morale and patriotic feeling that believes nothing is worth war is much worse. Pity the man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he values more than his own wretched skin; for he will never be free unless made and kept so by men better than himself"" I try, but not always succeed, to be a better man. Do you? I will write no more on this topic onlist, but feel free to continue offlist at my email address shown. If you do, you will be the first. Perry. PS if anyone can tell me who the quote above is from, you will get a free pat of my snake next LinP meeting. /p>

my suggestion on using lexan i think was misunderstood. The lexan was simply to seal the top of the box against weather. I did not intend anyone to use lexan piping, as copper is the best reasonably priced choice for that.

I have a TCT, together with a declaration of real property and a deed of Absolute Sale. I have 3 of these as I bought 3 lots adjacent to each other totaling 1,000 sq mts. The land was purchased from the Developers Antel and it had previously been registered. I have just put it up for sale, its in Cluster 1, at Grand Centennial at Kawit, Cavite. Its on the border close to the club house. If anybody is interested they can contact me off line.

Filipino language courtesy Also very formal or even grovelling: ""Would the lady 1. care to dance? 2. like a drink? 3. wish a......? Often said tongue in cheek but still in current use in the UK.

I still don't like the cold showers. We don't have hot water in our house but before I would move there for any period of time I defiantly would install it.

In talking of hot water/cold water,you should remember that water in the tropical lowlands is approximately 78F and not the 50F or so of the temperate Zones.I'm more interested in having enough pressure to get it to the shower head than that it be hot.Especially if the temperature in the bathroom is 90F or so.

Help (age difference fallout) desperado, this does not necessarily apply to anybody. regardless if she's a city girl (i for one) or a probinsyana (province girl). it's a matter of what a person really is and what her values are in life and if she's a god fearing as well. correct?

LARK FIELD, Pampanga - It's the second Balikatan stint of US marine Sgt. Clifford Grant here, and he already looks forward to retiring in the country three years from now. Grant, 38, is married to a Filipina, Joan Mendoza, a native of Floridablanca, Pampanga, whom he met in Okinawa, Japan in 1991. They have three children. While Grant does his job as assistant camp commandant for the two-week Balikatan military exercise here, taking care of the billeting, food and other needs of US military personnel, his children are in Floridablanca enjoying their summer break with his wife's relatives. ""We don't want (our children) to lose track of their (Filipino) roots,"" he said. In 2006, Grant will retire after serving the US military for 21 years. But this early, he and his wife have decided to spend his retirement years in the Philippines. The Grants, in fact, have started building a modest house in Floridablanca, near the residences of Joan's siblings. With a degree in business management, Grant plans to find a corporate job here. ""I see no other country to spend my civilian life other than the Philippines,"" he said. /p>